| Hey COREY .... heh ... | 10 Days Post Completion
Actually, I wasn't trying to imply that you were interested in that at all ... thanks for bolding that text, sometimes I skim through, you obviously did throw in that caveat about the physique. I was pretty certain you weren't willing to do steroids, but not sure if you knew which bodybuilders probably took 'em ... lol, yes, clarifies many things. And, thanks, re: the double-take physique. It is funny, however ... again, when I'm leaned down like those pictures, with my shirt off or at the beach, etc, it does get those double-takes ... but with clothes on, I just look like a skinny guy. :) I think the ultimate goal of all us bodybuilder types is to build the type of physique where you are lean but look massive even with your clothes on ...
Take care brotha!
posted by Jeremy on 7/3/2003 1:17:36 PM | | An attempt at shouts (please don't go away this time, LOL) | 10 Days Post Completion cont...
Cory - I hate to sound negative, I really do. I do not know Tom Prince, so I cannot make accusations that he did or did not do certain things to achieve his physique. There is, of course, that chance that he has superior genetics and just a drive and willpower second to none that got him there. But, looking at Mr. Prince's pictures, I cannot help but hear that term nagging in the back of my mind ... "steroids, steroids, steroids."
Take a look at these physiques, in competitions widely known to be frequented by steroid abusers (many of the competitors admit to this, which is why natural bodybuilders often don't even attempt to compete in these circuits, because how can you compete against the mighty testosterone injection?)
Now take a look at these physiques:
Now, all that is neither here nor there. Because the reality is that there is a world of difference between walking around in clothes and being topless and on stage. This is one of the realities Dave Greenwalt taught me. He told me when I went to get shredded/ripped the first time, that I should expect people to complain about how "small" I was and that I should stop losing weight, etc. He said that when you are low body fat, you look skinny with your clothes on but huge with your clothes OFF because the definition just shows so much better. And this was the truth - the actual reality! As I approached my goal weight (and I'm sure it'll happen again this time around) I got, "You're getting too thin" and "You should stop dropping weight, you've lost enough" etc. But when my final pictures came out, people said "How did you get so huge?". LOL. I didn't get huge - I just stripped away the fat and exposed the muscles underneath!
Now, this guy has dedicated his life to training, and I believe he is all time natural. I could be wrong, but I think even a few here have met him in person and to my knowledge, he does NOT use steroids. However, he has been training for decades and even he admits he is lucky to put on ONE POUND of muscle in a year!
Of course, in this picture, he doesn't look so huge, does he?
My point is that, first, make sure you set realistic goals ... if you truly want to get as large as possible through natural means, I think that's awesome, but keep in mind certain public physiques may not have been constructed through natural means ... so you might try to find someone you know is lifetime natural to know what a realistic goal is. Then, once you set that goal, understand that (a) it will take a long time to reach it, but you can reach it, and (b) even when you're huge, you'll probably have people telling you how small you are with your clothes on! But take your shirt off at the beach, and it's all over!
Kristin - juicers are awesome. I love mixing drinks. My favorite is just strawberries, grapes, and apples. When making a veggie shake, I'll do 6 carrot stalks, 3 celery sticks, a handful of spinach, 1/2 of a fresh jalapeņo pepper, and a sprig of parsley. SPICY FUN!
Pete/Sanieh - First, Pete, I know you are one shredded mean muscle machine. Can't wait to see the final pix ... glad you got to get your little metabolism boosting meal in there! I first learned about that phenomenon by mistake. I was in the middle of a strict BFL program before I knew much about nutrition. My training was falling off, I was getting weak/tired/exhausted. Some clients came into town and my company had box seats at the Phillips Arena, so we took the clients to a Thrashers game there. The box seats were catered with a full buffet including a 7 level dessert cart (ooof!). Anyway, I partook - chicken wings, stuffed jalapeņo poppers, beer, soda, dessert, etc. Of course, I felt horrible, but the next day I went in and worked out, and had the pump of my life!!! It's great. That is why I'm such a big fan of post workout shakes. Yesterday, I had 1972 calories, and 625 of them, or about 1/3, were in my post-workout shake! I wanted to say you and Sanieh look AWESOME together and many congratulations on your promotion, I'm sure it was hard-earned and well-deserved! GOD'S RICHEST BLESSINGS TO BOTH OF YOU!
Zach - no pressure, buddy, but I'm going to be making an effort to make it down there. My wife and I are long overdue for a date without the children ... and my parents are up for the weekend ... so we might ask them to babysit and stroll down there for the evening show ...... regardless, I know you'll do fantastic. I mean, you can't lose, brother. If you take the entire competition, you take it. If you don't, you now know what it's like, you have your blog to remind you what changes you need to make the next time around, and I'll be seeing you on the cover of some health & fitness magazines in the next year or so (as if seeing you in my MuscleMedia wasn't enough of a shocker already! YOU GO WITCHA BAD SELF!)
Everyone else - sorry, no more shouts, I want to keep this smaller so I don't LOSE IT ALL AGAIN AHHHHHRRRGH! LOL. I'm off to Helen, GA for the weekend, so take care and keep it real. I worked out at 4:30 this AM to get that workout done, and I'll push Friday's workout to Saturday, when I come home, so basically today and Friday will be relaxation days without missing any planned workouts!
KEEP IT REAL!
Oh, did anyone see the recent article about the bizarre occurence in South America? Apparently, Mick Jagger's tongue was found washed up on a beach in Chile! See for yourself!.
posted by Jeremy on 7/3/2003 7:45:25 AM | | Geneva - 10g is a good average | 9 Days Post Completion
There's no way to find out the exact amount. The best way to measure meat is raw, before cooking, but even then, variations exist. When you cook it, depending on the style of cooking and how long you cook it, the amount of moisture in the chicken will leave - in other words, if I cook my chicken for a long time and you cook yours shorter, mine will have less moisture and therefore more protein per ounce than yours! So finding the exact amount is never possible but 10g / oz is a good, general rule of thumb. Keep in mind as great as we feel seeing numbers like "1200" for the calories we eat, nutrition is never exact. As a rule of thumb, expect your "true" calories to be as much as 20% off in either direction on any given day. This is fine, however, because if you are consistent, these fluctuations will average out over time and the "average" intake will help give good indicators for progress.
Jeremy
posted by Jeremy on 7/2/2003 9:43:24 AM | | BAH! | 9 Days Post Completion cont...
Had a huge post. Accidentally hit BACKSPACE when the focus wasn't on the text box - navigated off the screen. At least 2 - 3 pages. Oh well .... anyway, hey everyone, having a great time, might not post for a few days (holidays). Oh well, not quite as much content as the original but I'm mentally exhausted and need to get to work! Peace!
posted by Jeremy on 7/2/2003 7:54:18 AM | | Geneva - Answers! | 8 Days Post Completion
Do you still wait an hour after cardio to eat?
No, I usually eat as quickly after training as possible. Any type of exercise will use amino acids for energy, so in my opinion, replenishing them as quickly as possibly leaves more to repair/build muscle later. As for fat burning, I'm still convinced it's total calories in/out over the day that is infinitely more important than waiting an hour before/after/etc.
What do you eat after cardio-shake or whole food?
If it's cardio only, a whole food meal. If I did cardio and training, I have a shake. But, it's a whole food shake - banana, raw sugar, sometimes avocado, not a pre-mixed thingy and I'm more concerned with high carbs and a little protein than I am with a ton of protein.
Those who count calories, do you include post workout shake in your totals?
Yes, I count those calories, and I find out that about 70% are lost in the metabolic furnace. In other words, if DietPower has my metabolism at 3000 calories and I suddenly add a post-workout shake that is 700 calories, within a few weeks, DietPower has my metabolism at 3500 calories. This means adding 700 calories of a post-workout shake really only gives me a "net increase" of 200 calories when it comes to weight fluctuations. I'd like to think it means my body is expending more energy building muscle than if I don't supply the shake!
How about flax?
I have my flax first thing in the morning. Since my goal with a post-workout shake is blood sugar and insulin, I avoid heavy fats except a little avocado in order to make sure digestion is as rapid as possible. Fat just slows digestion.
Anyone out there using ground flax seed? What are you adding it to?
I do use it on occassion. I mix it in salads or garnish meats with it ... for example, you can grill a salmon, then grind the flax seed and roll the salmon in the flax and serve that way. Just don't cook it WITH the ground flaxseed.
Those into food combining, if you were to have a carb & protein, would you avoid flax at that meal?
The food combining principles that I follow involve not combining starches and proteins at the same meal ... so typically a meal is like a sprouted grain bagel and spinch, OR a lean cut of meat and spinach, but not a bagel AND meat at the same sitting. If I do have the two together, I usually add a legume to the meal (seems to help with digestion, this is Mary Lou Henner's suggestion and doesn't appear to be backed by science, but anecdotally it works) and keep fat to a minimum (keeping fat to a minimum is per John Berardi out of Canada, he claims that you should have high fat and low carb meals or high carb and low fat meals but never high carb AND high fat, as the resulting insulin and blood sugar combined response is a recipe for fat storage). To make a short story boring - no, on the rare occassions I do combine protein + carb, I do not add fat.
There's my answers, Geneva!
posted by Jeremy on 7/1/2003 12:54:06 PM |
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